[SoulStar]

Well well as though every body that replied stated the PPs b fake so i avoided them. however i did question him about his kicks and ur right he usually be's on ball and responds fairly quickly but when i put forward a few questions to him he took a couple of days to get back to me.

Well the questions that i askd Andy (the Seller) were regards to the authenticiy of the PPs and the LQ with the help of the people on the forum who picked out things that indicated that the kicks were fake. So i asked him about these Defects and he e-mailed me back with this:

"my shoes is for you to wear it, not cost you hundreds of pounds and leave them there just keep in the room."

Decipher this how u like, the impression i got is he sells very convincing fakes that u can wear where ever u like such as to the club n get dem scuffed or punched in with a stiletto heel n shit! well u know use em and abuse them.

I sent man a vast amount of questions and thats all he comes back with, nothing to argue my points of why i thinks he is selling fakes.
I haven't been bothered to get intouch with him since recieving his e-mail.

let us know how u get on with him and remmeber if u an't satisfied u got Ebay saftey centre to get help dealing with the seller.

[Shelltoe]

Thats very interesting... My only concern is I did buy one pair to rock and one to stock. That pisses me off since I was looking to "keep a pair in my room", they are in route to me now. I will get some detailed photos of the actual pairs once I get them in hands.

Maybe we can put this to rest at that point. I think I've already decided that I'm returning atleast one pair since I don't want even an inkling of a doubt in regards to authenticity. The other... shit, I'll just rock but will need to talk to him about a discount on that.

[Shelltoe]

Here's his response when I wrote him regarding the authenticity of the shoes. I am starting to see the issues with the laces and the stitching by the stripes myself after looking at webshots of the Lees.

Can't trust eBay pics since all seem to be the same...outside of eBay is where I've done my research.

Anyways, here's his response:
> why you ask all of this after you get the tracking number,why didn't you
> contact me before we sent them out?
>
> i realy thanks for your business,however if you are not happy with the deal
> we been talking with the email, then please don't even open the
> packing,just send them back when you receive it, i can sell them about
> 80-120pounds each in uk.
>
> somebody did same like you before,i knew they gona say it's fake,so if you
> plan to do the same,just send them back instant,okey? i will refund the
> money to you,don't worry
>
> regards
> andy

The guy is alright, but I just can't take the chance, nor do I want to since I planned on re-selling one pair down the road. I'm not gonna gip someone on my mistake, if that truly is the case.

Dammit, now to write him back and tell him I'll be sending them right back.

Anyone know where I can buy some AUTHENTIC Lees in a US 10.5?? I'm so jaded on eBay right now.

[Shelltoe]

Hmmmm, I don't know how to read this last email. Makes me want to beleive him, but I am still on the fence. I've told him I will send them right back and he's emailed me 5 times to discuss it so far, each one with more explination.

hi steve

i forgot to tell you another thing which i think you may concern. i think the most reason you said it's fake is the price i offer was so low,right?and you also said i can not give receipt from the shop. do you know there is a factory in SuZhou(near ShangHai) where make shoes for adidas international group. i know a friend work in that factory. so the lee you bought is from that friend,now you should understand everything.right?

regards

andy

[t2r]

open them, find out they are fake, get the money back and keep the shoes, his problem, ur gain

[bobby dassler]

open them, find out they are fake, get the money back and keep the shoes, his problem, ur gain

Yup!

I did that with a pair - they were shipped from china even though the seller was in England!

I opened 'em up, took 1 look at them, & got straight on the sellers case via email.

He promised me a refund but after 3 weeks of waiting, it still hadn't come, so i logged the 1st stage of complaint with paypal (i couldn't with ebay though as i bought them direct from the seller for £50 even though he had them up on the bay for £140 "Buy it Now")

So i searched on google as he had an unusual name, got a few leads, phoned about & tracked him down, then i managed to get hold of his number so i phoned him up...

He was a little shocked to say the least!

After a few choice words & a threat of a me paying him a visit, he promised me he would post a cheque straight away as his paypal account had been frozen from other unhappy people - the following day my cheque came & it cleared no probs - but others have left him negative feedback on ebay as they've lost their money & now he's no longer a registerd user.

I ended up putting them in the Sally Army clothes bin - i just hope they haven't sold them on as adidas trainers through 1 of their charity shops!

Moral of the story is if you receive fakes, get straight on the case to ebay & paypal & get your refund before it's to late as you only get a limited time to do it!

[SoulStar]

Ok dude does seem alrite,
like t2r said open them and see the actual product urself. let andy know b4 u do this, or u can go ahead and open n pack it up again, if he gets funny with u just let him know u wanted to c if they were real as u may have been over reacting, take sum pics 2 and post dem up here.

About refund trying getting him to refund u b4 sending item bak. I had to do this once with a guy (ebay id: paronoid_president) who sold me fake disneys the pics on auction were authentic but i recieved fakes with a lot of hassle & convincing that i will return his fakes back man gave me ma money back and i sent him da fakes back has i didn't want them nasty shits taking any space in my room.

Looking at wht he wrote back to u it does show man has no belief that his shoes will pass as orignals, then why state 100% authentic on auction page, fuking joke!

[Johnny5]

About refund trying getting him to refund u b4 sending item bak. I had to do this once with a guy (ebay id: paronoid_president) who sold me fake disneys the pics on auction were authentic but i recieved fakes with a lot of hassle & convincing that i will return his fakes back man gave me ma money back and i sent him da fakes back has i didn't want them nasty shits taking any space in my room.

He just refunded me too.

I offered to 'Take immediate and severe action' if he didn't refund me by midday the next day.

Once he realised I knew he lived at 11 Hodders Place, Blackburn, he played ball!

Dirty scammer, relying on most buyers being ignorant...

[dj_wildthing]

Anyone know where I can buy some AUTHENTIC Lees in a US 10.5?? I'm so jaded on eBay right now.

Try these guys mate:

http://www.fly-clothing.co.uk/

[Shelltoe]

[quote="Johnny5"][quote]
He just refunded me too.

I offered to 'Take immediate and severe action' if he didn't refund me by midday the next day.

Once he realised I knew he lived at 11 Hodders Place, Blackburn, he played ball!

Dirty scammer, relying on most buyers being ignorant... [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHA. Well that made my day! I may need your assistance if things don't go as smooth in getting my money back. I did let him know when I was pissed that I was going to open them up and look at them. I will definitely post some Hi-Res pics once they are received.

Thanks Wildthing... I will give them a look.

Just went and bought these to cheer me up out of this whole fiasco... so cleeeeeeeeeean.

[Shelltoe]

Soo... I was going through his old emails, he's sent me about 20 so far. Found this part that I must've glazed over.

hi steve your parcel was arrive usa,i think you will get it soon i was check with my friend in china,the postage cost are 24.55pounds, and you have paid me 105pounds total, so after i receiv them in saleable condition,i will refund you 80.45pounds. another opinion for you, look i think it's easy for you to sale them on ebay like 60-80pounds for one pairs.

i can promise the shoes was come from the factory which produce shoes for adidas, just adidas don't know the factory did it themself.

everything is up to you,you can return it for refund or keep it,and we can do more business,you knew you get big discount from me,just check how much others sale this lee on ebay. all the bestandy

Yeah, they are fakes from the factory!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING A!!! Now, I'm mad.

[Shelltoe]

Soo... I was going through his old emails, he's sent me about 20 so far. Found this part that I must've glazed over.

hi steve your parcel was arrive usa,i think you will get it soon i was check with my friend in china,the postage cost are 24.55pounds, and you have paid me 105pounds total, so after i receiv them in saleable condition,i will refund you 80.45pounds. another opinion for you, look i think it's easy for you to sale them on ebay like 60-80pounds for one pairs.

i can promise the shoes was come from the factory which produce shoes for adidas, just adidas don't know the factory did it themself.

everything is up to you,you can return it for refund or keep it,and we can do more business,you knew you get big discount from me,just check how much others sale this lee on ebay. all the bestandy

Yeah, they are fakes from the factory!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING A!!! Now, I'm mad.

Damnnn... god i almost forgot this post. Memories.

SoulStar and WildThing still up in here???

[Big J]

If you think posts like that are gonna get you up to the required amount for selling stuff you're out of your mind.

[flyingcod]

Who the hell is that Johnny5 poster and why did he put someone's address up?

fc

[bobby dassler]

Damnnn... god i almost forgot this post. Memories.

SoulStar and WildThing still up in here???

My god! I forgot about all the time i used to spend on here!

Hi to all the (adidas) originals! Lol