[Battosai]

So I'm checking ebay everyday for a few adidas items I've had my eye on for a while now and it has amazed me how many fakes of adidas gear you will see churned out day after day and week after week on there.

I'm new to 'the game' when it comes to adidas limited edition ranges and adicolors etc, but I'm wondering if adidas is the most exploited and targeted brand on the market for frauds and mass-shifting of fake goods?

I wasn't sure where to put this and I hope it leads to some kind of discussion rather than being shot down without consideration, but in their own way do you think adidas lends itself to such piracy with such limitation on absolutely amazing stuff?

The originals are literally in limited supply of 5000!! - for the entire world, or even less!! - and snapped up by collectors immediately, but then adidas shut up shop and sell no more - yet demand is still there and leaves a window for unscrupulous suppliers willing to exploit those huge voids in the market.

There's a few pieces I have my eye on that may not show themselves in even the next year and in this way adidas must be losing millions a year by cutting their limited lines down to so few thousand a go. Those same millions must surely be going to Chinese and Hong Kong fraud warehouses? Don't adidas care about this?

Doesn't it lend itself to some having the logic of buying the fake rather than not having the product at all if they cannot find an original? After all, the design is the same as are the colour schemes and so on. With the templates adidas leave for these guys, it's a licence for them to print money.

What's your take on what adidas do - or do not do - in the market with regard to such a limited supply of their product? If they upped the limited editions from say, 5,000 to 50,000 or 500,000 would the fraudsters still have that window to exploit, or would that 'not so limited' item suddenly not be appealing to you?

I'm not condoning piracy, before anyone starts, what I'm asking you is what is your stance on what adidas does? Do you think it encourages the pirates given the explanation above of what limited supply does to a marketplace that still want the product no longer on offer?

[pokey27]

They don't just fake the limited edition stuff though m8 !! as i found out with a pair of bog standard adidas superstar sign/off's which are just a general footlocker release.

[Battosai]

They don't just fake the limited edition stuff though m8 !! as i found out with a pair of bog standard adidas superstar sign/off's which are just a general footlocker release.

That doesn't surprise me as I've seen bog standard fakes of most brands, but surely they get the huge profit margins from profiteering off of the 'ltd ed.' they sell to folk who don't know any better?

I've been watching an adicolor track top I want go constantly for 60-70 on ebay the last few weeks. That's what it retailed at or even a bit more!

I don't know how much they make those fake tops for, but it can't be long before such trends net them 100's of k's.

[adidasanth]

Being new to the game fella, you will perhaps know that I (and many others) spend hours reporting to ebay the fakers. Adidas MUST have an anti counterfeit policy and as the media reports, anything that can be made cheaper is being.

All part of the wests plan to use cheaper labour has backfired royally on them. The same factories that make the adidas during the day make it 'on the nightshift'.

This has been discussed MANY a time on here, good points tho'. I spent a WHOLE day reporting shit to ebay and to an adidas email, got NOWHERE!

Too big a problem, fakers get rich, bedroom sellers sell shit, ebay makes its profit (I no longer use ebay BTW) and we (pokey today) are left to count the cost.

Its a fucking tightrope!! Tread carefully. Makes what we have on here more special because we hve outlets to check against fake shit, when they punch out a FL basic shoe as legit, it is getting harder. Hold on to your legits cos the twats that stock up on the fake shit know fuck all anyway. Pokey is a wise fella and still got bent over, fucking nightmare!!!

Peace

[Samo]

The limitedness of items is what makes them highly collectable. I dont think adidas is shooting themselves in the foot cos they make ltd editions. And as for the fake market, theres not alot big brands can do about it, there are just too many fakers out there, as soon as they shut one place down, two more will pop up.
Sure the brands could lower their prices, or do bigger runs, both would reduce profitability... and if you were in charge, would you want to cut your own profits?

Theres always gonna be fakers whether adidas do larger runs or reduce price. The only way to combat it is to make sure people are aware of fakes and how to identify them. and even then that will have limited effect as there are loads of people out there who would rock fakes knowing they're fake...

[Battosai]

Being new to the game fella, you will perhaps know that I (and many others) spend hours reporting to ebay the fakers. Adidas MUST have an anti counterfeit policy and as the media reports, anything that can be made cheaper is being.

All part of the wests plan to use cheaper labour has backfired royally on them. The same factories that make the adidas during the day make it 'on the nightshift'.

This has been discussed MANY a time on here, good points tho'. I spent a WHOLE day reporting shit to ebay and to an adidas email, got NOWHERE!

Too big a problem, fakers get rich, bedroom sellers sell shit, ebay makes its profit (I no longer use ebay BTW) and we (pokey today) are left to count the cost.

Its a fucking tightrope!! Tread carefully. Makes what we have on here more special because we hve outlets to check against fake shit, when they punch out a FL basic shoe as legit, it is getting harder. Hold on to your legits cos the twats that stock up on the fake shit know fuck all anyway. Pokey is a wise fella and still got bent over, fucking nightmare!!!

Peace

Yea, I've read a few of your threads on the issue and was quite surprised at how indifferent adidas seem to be about it. The question I have is why are they like that, it's their pockets getting wounded and exploited.

What you said about the night-shifters in those cheap labour factors is what makes it even more incredulous. The hustle game on this gear is major, some of the fakes are so good you'd have to have a way above average knowledge to even spot them.

It's in ebay's best interests to peddle as much saleable shite as possible so their last interest would be shutting down the thieves who are making them money 24/7, 365, but adidas? How come they don't regulate this to the best of their power?

A perfect example is nintendo. They had a lot of trouble with the DS smart cards, they were flooded all over ebay with those, but nintendo shut that shit down, hard, and now you won't see any kind of pirate nintendo gear on ebay. I now the problem is much more complex for adidas, but some of the things being frauded are easy and immediate spots even two of their employees scanning ebay could spot in a flash..

Keep up the fight, but if adidas aren't compliant or giving a shit, I just don't see how the problem can get close to even lessening.

B

[Battosai]

The limitedness of items is what makes them highly collectable. I dont think adidas is shooting themselves in the foot cos they make ltd editions. And as for the fake market, theres not alot big brands can do about it, there are just too many fakers out there, as soon as they shut one place down, two more will pop up.
Sure the brands could lower their prices, or do bigger runs, both would reduce profitability... and if you were in charge, would you want to cut your own profits?

Theres always gonna be fakers whether adidas do larger runs or reduce price. The only way to combat it is to make sure people are aware of fakes and how to identify them. and even then that will have limited effect as there are loads of people out there who would rock fakes knowing they're fake...

I don't agree with that. If something is Limited edition and you think you're getting a real pair/top/bottoms etc, you're gonna spend/bid in accordance with that rarity - i.e over the odds as opposed to open-market stuff, which is ten a penny.

If I were a fraudster I would specialise almost exclusively in limited ed's because there's a ton of money to be had there following the principle in the first paragraph. Quality (ltd ed is seen as a novelty) over quantity (generic stuff you can get anywhere) can even work for bootleggers, I believe.

I've watched at least 100 adicolor track tops sell now for retail price or above. I know for certain if an original came up on there I'd be willing to pay what I can afford to get it. So for all those people who think that fake is genuine, they're doing what I would do, but just get duped because it's a dud.

[kaisifus]

A perfect example is nintendo. They had a lot of trouble with the DS smart cards, they were flooded all over ebay with those, but nintendo shut that shit down, hard, and now you won't see any kind of pirate nintendo gear on ebay. I now the problem is much more complex for adidas, but some of the things being frauded are easy and immediate spots even two of their employees scanning ebay could spot in a flash..

Noo.. Ninty have it vaugly sorted out on Ebay, but you go to anywhere in Asia and barely any of them are aware that you can even get seperate games for the DS... Sure, it might be less of a problem on Ebay, but it doesnt take much to get a 2 gb flash pen and download the games yourself, which is what is happening instead..

How did they manage to get them all of incidentially?

[Rocket Toes]

It's a sad thing but adidas could do something about this problem, but HOW much money would that cost them compared to how much it costs them from frauds. Look at software piracy, no matter what measures a company puts in place hackers find ways around it. I guess the only real solution to get adidas to do something would be if nobody buys the real lmt's and bought the knock off's instead.

[bigrob]

Uh oh .......

[streak]

[Shellshock]

[nikosg]

what the fucking fuck...
[ wheres the ban hammer ]

[flyingcod]

Almost three years...

fc

[Rocket Toes]

Wow, i'm surprised I can write like that after 3/4 a bottle of crown and...shit I don't remember how many shot's of jager. Sorry I can't read dates when I'm that drunk.