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24-08-07, 04:33 PM #1
the_marsbar SSDB Member *****
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Okay I know some of you might think that an "interest" (i wouldn't exactly call it that, but I didn't know what other word to use instead) in perfumes/scents is a bit weird.

Personally I'm really fond of especially light (and sometimes fruity like DKNY - Be delicious) scents. The subtler (should probably have been "more subtle" instead) the betterVery Happy

Also, it doesn't really make any sense for me to overuse a perfume (which is often seen today though!), because 1) normally it doesn't smell as good, 2) you get tired of using it in no time, 3) it's not pleasent for other people to even walk past you.

My personal preferences when it comes to scents have to be:

- My girlfriend's skin when she's slept and her perfume is gone. LovelySmile
- When it comes to perfumes: DKNY - Be delicious, Georgio Armani - Night. I also recently discovered Paco Rabanne - Black XS which has to be my new favourite.

Any of you share the same interest for smelling goodRazz?

24-08-07, 11:30 PM #2
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i like the boss in a little canteen, boss in a ball, paco rabanne and ive got a little bottle of blue valentino somewhere.

Oh what a feelin! When you're dunking, on the ceilin!

24-08-07, 11:40 PM #3
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It's called aftershave really Mars.
L'egoiste and Clinique Chemistry (pretty hard to get hold of these days).



24-08-07, 11:46 PM #4
super sk8 Adidas Superstar Specialist ******
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I prefer BOSS bottled, Diesel plusplus & Giorgio Armani´s Aqua di gio.

whack lacing is killing your shoes!

25-08-07, 09:45 AM #5
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That Diesel one is quite good too, super sk8, I have that one as well.

Hmm Pure, isn't it two different things? I always thought so.

25-08-07, 10:10 AM #6
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Well you have Aftershaves and Eau de Toillettes for men usually the latter being the better quality and normally more expensive!

My faves (and there are loads!) are Esencia by Loewe , Havana by Aramis which is very hard to source now since production stopped, Paco Rabanne, Dunhill , Givenchy - Gentlemen , Chanel Platinum Egoiste , Ralph Lauren - Polo , Nino Cerutti - 1881 , Cacherel - Por L'Homme. Just ordered a new one on line on Wenesday called Commes des Garcons which is really nice i think.

Good to see we all like to smell nice!

Dance wit the speaker 'till you hear it blow - Mr Rakim

25-08-07, 10:19 AM #7
mr.pure Cold Blooded Murderator. *******
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the_marsbar Wrote:That Diesel one is quite good too, super sk8, I have that one as well.

Hmm Pure, isn't it two different things? I always thought so.

Well what a girl wears is perfume and a bloke wears aftershave or eau de toilette.
Having said that, I usually just rub on a bit of Spam cos the ladies like me meatilicious.

Very Happy



25-08-07, 11:22 AM #8
Dice Oldskool Roll the Dice *****
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I like to smell good to. Some of my favorites are :
Ralph Lauren - Polo Black
Jil Sander - Sun
Joop!
Davidoff - Cool Water
Lacoste - Red
Adidas - Dynamic Pulse
Rochas - Man by Rochas
BVLGARI - Pour Homme I

I grew up to become a screw up...

25-08-07, 11:25 AM #9
shelltoes Adidas Superstar Specialist ******
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Mmmmm.... Spam.

25-08-07, 11:27 AM #10
the_marsbar SSDB Member *****
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mr.pure Wrote:Well what a girl wears is perfume and a bloke wears aftershave or eau de toilette.

Ah I see. I learnt something new today as well then. Obviously I'm talking about EDT thenSmile

25-08-07, 11:29 AM #11
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the_marsbar Wrote:Hmm Pure, isn't it two different things? I always thought so.

There are actually 5 different things

Perfume
Eau de perfume
Eau de toilette
Aftershave
Eau de cologne

I grew up to become a screw up...

25-08-07, 11:30 AM #12
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As long as it smells nice I couldn't give a damn!!!!!
lol
xx

"IF THE SHOE FITS - BUY IT IN EVERY COLOUR!!!!!"



25-08-07, 11:31 AM #13
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As one of the few ladies on here Nic, what do you wear?

Dance wit the speaker 'till you hear it blow - Mr Rakim

25-08-07, 01:05 PM #14
the_marsbar SSDB Member *****
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Dice Oldskool Wrote:
the_marsbar Wrote:Hmm Pure, isn't it two different things? I always thought so.

There are actually 5 different things

Perfume
Eau de perfume
Eau de toilette
Aftershave
Eau de cologne

And the top to are for girls? Here in Denmark we use what would be "perfume" when we talk about scents for both girls and guys.

25-08-07, 06:57 PM #15
woody SSDB Member *****
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I chop and change really:

Ralph Lauren, Paul Smith, Jean Paul Gaultier, Calvin Klein - Depends how I feel in Boots Laughing

Wishing it was like the old days again






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