[ozthecoz]

hmmmmm,

we ALL get a couple of fake ebay accounts

then at set time on set day we ALL

bid on and win the BUY IT NOW auctions by fakers, Those that are fake sellers and dont have buy it now auctions we put in bids of ?10k so that

A any one who does bid on a fakie wont win em
B - there spiralling ebay fees will have to be paid therefore costing them money with no incomings

Obviously the sellers will put in complaints that we never went through with the sale but if we ALL reply to the non payment complaints with the reason for non payment being fake items being sold somebidy will have to do something somewhere

Thas my idea anyway and it may be an idea to make a private invite forum for discusion of such thing - though saying that even if the fake sellers can read this they cant do a hell of a lot a bout it once we have bid

[lorre]

Gosh have you been reading my mind?ozthecoz I've said all this to Sir Pure.
I've already bid on few fakes.

[olstar]

What if there was a decent, alternative to ebay and paypal, that was secure, and the auctions were verified before being posted..

How could a website easily check if a pair of kicks is fake?

Do fakers include the correct serial numbers?

We could include a checklist or question sheet when posting?

There has to be another way!

And i think we shoud think of it!

[lorre]

Hi Olstar
I sort of get where your coming from bit i really feel the makers of the original products i.e Adidas have to really go gunning for Ebay, i've seen it happen with other products and the fakers have been shut down within hours of the product listing.
Ebay/Paypal are very good at collecting money etc but crap at monitoring their own site.
What happens when the lister uses libary images? no-one knows if the product is fake until it arrives.
I wouldn't know if my serial numbers were correct or not and how would we get access to the correct numbers? and if we did have access so would the fakers.
Every member of Ebay can already write a guide on what to look out for the only problem is the guides although useful are well hidden.
I think weve all come to the conclusion Ebay is all about making money and if the money comes from fakers who cares.
The checklist is also i way of linking people to this and other sites.

[woody]

Maybe ebay are allowed to let fakers sell stuff if they have no reason to doubt them, but if that seller is constantly being reported then this much change things? This must mean ebay have to investigate surely???

That's the reasoning behind me continuing to submit fake reports.....but I know a lot of people have reported the same sellers, and they're still selling so maybe if the sellers have already passed the reviews they dont bother?

Mr Shoeshotta, I'd be happy to contact the guy you mentioned personally and not mention you at all if you'd be ok for me to do that? I can see you might not want to though as you sell so much via ebay

I cant give you the contact details - she will know that it was me! But maybe the best idea is to put a whole load of stuff together - maybe individual complaints from all of us on here, plus something detailing the amount of fake stuff on there and the factors that we would take into account when deciding if something is fake etc. I could then pass this on, but I still couldnt be certain it would get to the right people and they would act on it.

Now orries mate I understand

Might be an idea to get a decent amount of stuff together but is there any point? Like Sooper says, they never bother to reply to anyones emails, you can't call them up, you can't even get a straigtforward email address from them - it all has to be done through those stupid bloody contact pages.

[benitosbk]

Unfortunately guys, I kind of blame adidas. IF they didn't pay peanuts and have everything produced in China and Indonesia this problem of fakes would be nowhere near as bad as it is. I have a friend who worked at adidas in quite a high position (has sinced been head hunted by Ben Sherman), and he says adidas don't do anything because the problem will never go away. The financial losses they they incur from fakes is a small cost financially, compared to the money they save producing in asia. My mate says they basically accept fakes as part of the package of a big brand and they expect it and accept that it happens from producing in asia.

Good to chat to you all as I'm new to posting on here. Does anyone know what the deal is with pickyourshoes.com. Is it a genuine site I can purchase kicks from?

Maybe ebay are allowed to let fakers sell stuff if they have no reason to doubt them, but if that seller is constantly being reported then this much change things? This must mean ebay have to investigate surely???

That's the reasoning behind me continuing to submit fake reports.....but I know a lot of people have reported the same sellers, and they're still selling so maybe if the sellers have already passed the reviews they dont bother?

Mr Shoeshotta, I'd be happy to contact the guy you mentioned personally and not mention you at all if you'd be ok for me to do that? I can see you might not want to though as you sell so much via ebay

I cant give you the contact details - she will know that it was me! But maybe the best idea is to put a whole load of stuff together - maybe individual complaints from all of us on here, plus something detailing the amount of fake stuff on there and the factors that we would take into account when deciding if something is fake etc. I could then pass this on, but I still couldnt be certain it would get to the right people and they would act on it.

Now orries mate I understand

Might be an idea to get a decent amount of stuff together but is there any point? Like Sooper says, they never bother to reply to anyones emails, you can't call them up, you can't even get a straigtforward email address from them - it all has to be done through those stupid bloody contact pages.

[sin`pl]

PYS is genuine, but their customer service if horrible.

[Da Camden Ayatollah]

Oh but you can call them up and i had the numbers.and personal emails.

so unless i've missed anything out, wots stopping u lot then?

[freqeist1]

Has anyone got a decent contact email address at ebay? I'm starting to get sick of reporting the same fake sellers over and over again with ebay never doing anything about it.

We need someone we can contact directly and maybe we can finally get these twats shutdown.

Anyone???

join the VeRO program within Ebay?
They do random checks i think

[pokey27]

All i've been able to come up with only involves spreading the word on who is selling fakes and putting the information on ebay for more people hopefully to see it.
I've been busy so havn't had chance to sort this yet but i will and see what happens
basically it this
1.list information for sale @ 10p buy it now (cover listing costs)
2.big arsed listing drawing people to look at it like...
"LOOKING TO BUY THAT ELUSIVE PAIR OF RARE ADIDAS ????"
"HAPPY TO BUY FAKES??"
"WANT TO KNOW WHATS REAL WOTS NOT??"
ETC ETC ETC
then basically they buy the information of fake ebay sellers names for 10p and recieve an email of the content (totally non profit)
But more people would hopefully get the list and stop buying from these fake sellers!!
Sure its not a answer to the problem but if we can reduce there sales more and more then this can only be a good thing right??
Well as i said i will be trying this idea as an experiment to see if ebayers are actually interested but if they'd rather pay peanuts for fakes than wait and pay alot more for real then nothing more we can do.
You can only put the information out there,you cant make them act on the information there given.